Canada Cup 1987 Final Game Goals - Canada vs. USSR

Potts132 Says:

Jul 8, 2010 - @infinitidal Same to you, normally by now it not a debate with other people its just name calling. But if you look at Olympic records which are best on best we are now ahead by 1 gold medal in the race. And at the world juniors we are tied for most golds. And those are the two most important tournament (to Canadians anyways)

unnamed00 Says:

Jul 8, 2010 - @infinitidal I am viewing this more realistically, but you don't want to.

unnamed00 Says:

Jul 8, 2010 - There was the 1974 summit series...There were also a lot of World Championships, which Canada did not win for decades until the USSR broke up...

unnamed00 Says:

Jul 8, 2010 - Rarely beat Canada?? Well look it up yourself...

unnamed00 Says:

Jul 8, 2010 - So you think you know the "best on best" record?Russia has not done well since 1991 but its "best on best" record against Canada is still 1-1.The USSR was also about even with Canada in these kind of games, even though most of them were played in favorable circumstances for Canada.And the USSR did destroy Canada in international competitions many times, not only in the WCs in Europe but in North America too (79, 81).

infinitidal Says:

Jul 8, 2010 - @unnamed00 perhaps you are unfamiliar with Canadian/NHL hockey ... but, Canada NEVER sends its best players to the World Championships ... for one thing the NHL playoffs are just getting started so 16 of the 30 teams players are unavailable ... second, most Canadian players don't take the WC seriously and rarely attend when they are available ..... haven't you noticed that our Canada Cup team rosters and Olympic team rosters are NOT the same as Canada's WC teams??

infinitidal Says:

Jul 8, 2010 - @Potts132 yes no need for name calling .. i totally agree! back to the debate ... you can't be very familiar with Canadian hockey to suggest that the Olympics are best on best, at least untill very recently (98?) when NHL players were allowed to play. the top 1000 players from Canada were playing in the NHL. AHL etc so were pros and not allowed to represent Canada in the Olympics.

infinitidal Says:

Jul 8, 2010 - @Potts132 The Soviet record is a bit of a joke. They were a great team no doubt, but they were NEVER tested against real competition. Now that they are playing by the same rules as Canada ...ie- NO preparation time, NOT playing YEAR ROUND together as a team etc, the Russians just can't win a big BEST on BEST championship when they play by the same rules as Canada. THis is how ALL Canadians see the state of international hockey.

infinitidal Says:

Jul 8, 2010 - @unnamed00 the 74 thing was against WHA players ...NOT NHL Canadian players. BIG difference in talent for Canada.... and i think we both know the WOrld CHampionships are NEVER best on best ... How many times have you seen Gretzky, Lemieux, Messier, Crosby etc etc etc in a WOrld Championships???? Perhaps you aren't familiar with Canada's best players to know who's who. YOu just see a Canadian sweater and think they represent the best?

unnamed00 Says:

Jul 9, 2010 - Again the same excuses.You don't know how good some of those Canadian WC teams have been.The Soviets did not send all of their best players to all to the Canada Cups also, so that makes those Canada Cups meaningless too?

unnamed00 Says:

Jul 9, 2010 - I know more about Canada's WC teams than you...Gretzky, Lemieux, Messier, and other top players played in some WCs.Also, you can't just dismiss that 74 WHA team as vastly inferior.

unnamed00 Says:

Jul 9, 2010 - That is a very dumb point of view...So all the times they embarrassed Canada's best, they still were not tested?The team did not train year round silly... That is just a common Canadian excuse.The problems with modern Russian hockey go far beyond preparation and training time.What really is a joke is Canada's Canada Cup record... That is where Canada was not playing by the same rules as other teams.

infinitidal Says:

Jul 9, 2010 - @unnamed00 .... not likely ... and YES YOU CAN dismiss the level of WHA talent versus that of the NHL. You may not have heard but the WHA doesn't even exist anymore, and very few of those players ended up playing in the NHL.

infinitidal Says:

Jul 9, 2010 - @unnamed00 Team Russia trained YEAR ROUND! that is a fact... the rest just sounds like sour grapes to me ....

infinitidal Says:

Jul 9, 2010 - @unnamed00 Canadian teams are ALWAYS good. No question. Just not our best.... and yes, if the SOviets didn't send their best to Canada Cups (which of course they did) then it isn't 'best on best' now is it....

Potts132 Says:

Jul 10, 2010 - @infinitidal You know every single Canadian? I bet, Unnamed00 said what I was gonna say anyways

infinitidal Says:

Jul 10, 2010 - .... let me rephrase that as ... every knowledgeable Canadian

unnamed00 Says:

Jul 12, 2010 - Shows how much you know.Care to take a look at the roster of that WHA team.You don't know much of what you are talking about...

unnamed00 Says:

Jul 12, 2010 - Yes year round, 24/7...That is not a fact but a myth. You seem to have the two words confused...

unnamed00 Says:

Jul 12, 2010 - Again look at the WC rosters of some of those Canadian teams in the 80's; many of Canada's best were there.So you are claiming that the Soviets sent their best team in 76 and 91 without even knowing their rosters?

FloydSnider Says:

Jul 21, 2010 - @unnamed00 Excuse? since when do we need an excuse? check how we win more than you... and the old russia teams did train together unlike ours. We still won so its not an excuse, you need an excuse when you lose...kinda like how you said team canada got breaks from the refs...thats a good excuse...

FloydSnider Says:

Jul 21, 2010 - @unnamed00 oh, and the Canada Cup happened 5 times and Canada won 4 of them...so what's the joke?

TheTTBT Says:

Jul 24, 2010 - The drone the organ guy plays after each Soviet goal is perfect.

unnamed00 Says:

Jul 29, 2010 - Canada did get "breaks". There was a lot said about this in the comments before, so read them and watch my other video about this.Canada won more? Well it all depends on how and what you count...

unnamed00 Says:

Jul 29, 2010 - Why you only count the Canada Cup?Canada could win a tournament where everything was done so that Canada wins... so what?